(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[7200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[US Open Rnd 4 brd 2 - 2008 US Go Congress - Myungwan Kim (8p) vs Yue Zhang (8d)]PW[Myungwan Kim]PB[Yue Zhang]WR[8p]BR[8d]DT[2008-08-07]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler/Huck Bennett]C[Violence [?\]: oh man... a classic matchup.
jankenpopp: lol
USGO2 [-\]: pairings were later today than previous days
jankenpopp: well regardless, this match up will be good too :P
USGO2 [-\]: the players are setting their clocks
Gosnake [6k\]: hello peoples
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Violence [?\]: Do you have any info on Zhang Yue? I'm curious as I haven't heard of him.
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[qd]
;W[dd]C[USGO2 [-\]: I'll check with the news desk
Violence [?\]: Thank you.
jankenpopp: he is first in standings isnt he?
]
;B[pq]
;W[po]C[USGO2 [-\]: For latest Congress tourney info, click on http://usgo.org/congress/2008/  Round-by-Round pairings, running crosstabs and more!
Singer [10k\]: Are all the ranks AGA and pro ranks
Singer [10k\]: ?
USGO2 [-\]: yes
utah [10k\]: if this were a regular every day KGS game, it'd be half over already
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;B[pm]C[Equitsumei [-\]: well see how myung wan does . .  ~
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;W[no]
;B[nq]
;W[qq]C[Violence [?\]: interesting pincer choice
]
;B[qr]
;W[qp]C[Principe [2d\]: hm
USGO2 [-\]: Both players sitting very quietly studying the board
Violence [?\]: Usually in a situation like this, you want to play a joseki with sente in mind so that you may have a good chance to take the empty corner
Principe [2d\]: with the 1 space pincer r4 is usual violence?
Equitsumei [-\]: w most likely didn't want to start heav ily in that corner, b made a choice thats ha rd to ignore. .
Violence [?\]: yes
Violence [?\]: now either P2 or S2
USGO2 [-\]: occasionally reaching out to straighten the last played stone
Violence [?\]: both moves have their pluses and minuses
Astral [2k\]: who is leading this tournament?
Violence [?\]: Currently Zhang Yue is at the top with 3-0 score and good tiebreaks.
USGO2 [-\]: http://usgo.org/naim/band-matrix/42
Astral [2k\]: thx a lot
USGO2 [-\]: Feng Yun walks by taking pictues of the top boards
]
;B[or]
;W[qm]
;B[pl]C[Principe [2d\]: wow is this playable
USGO2 [-\]: we're beginning to see several tired faces around the room as this week wears on
Violence [?\]: interesting play
Violence [?\]: The normal move is R8 and then a crosscut joseki that usually ends with white sente
Principe [2d\]: hm
]
;W[ql]
;B[qk]
;W[pk]C[USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu gets up from his game behind me and checks out the other games
Violence [?\]: I wonder if Zhang Yue had this prepared
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;B[qn]
;W[rk]
;B[qj]
;W[pn]
;B[ok]
;W[rj]
;B[qi]
;W[ri]
;B[qh]C[Cloudwall [-\]: does anyone like this for B and can you say why?  it seems to me like W is better here.  even though B is getting influence, W is already out and up into the center on one side and B is low on the bottom
Violence [?\]: I like this for black
Violence [?\]: notice white is playing second line moves
tsukiakari [6k\]: b has a nice wall :/
GlebD [2d\]: how much time till the game myungwan against mogo ? 
Violence [?\]: I would be uncomfortable as white
gepay [2k\]: kim's move seem slow I mean I usually lose when I have to play that solid
Equitsumei [-\]: b is clearly favorable, w position is almost miserable, worth very few, but myung wan won't let it that wa y. .
Cloudwall [-\]: true, the wall is very nice, and solid, but it's really early.  hard to say if it will be "easy" to use, don't you think?
gepay [2k\]: but li;lke cloudwall said b is very low on the bottom
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;W[kc]C[Equitsumei [-\]: k16 
Equitsumei [-\]: ah
MssrBlanc [4k\]: is the wall why white doesn't get close to the top right?
]
;B[rr]
;W[rn]C[Violence [?\]: yes
Violence [?\]: black might respond with a pincer of great severity
MssrBlanc [4k\]: nice turn of phrase
Doublewing [9k\]: shimari now ?
Violence [?\]: For kyu players, Black S2 aims at Black s6, white responds to defend his two stones, then black T3 will connect them out
Violence [?\]: I think black will take the empty corner, personally
Equitsumei [-\]: k16 l17 only direction, furthe r is to o far, b won't close, it would heavy the whole right . .
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;B[mc]C[Equitsumei [-\]: hm. 
tsukiakari [6k\]: b overconcentrated...
Violence [?\]: not really
]
;W[dp]C[Violence [?\]: I think what black is saying is that there is no real good way for white to play on the top
Violence [?\]: every move leaves a weakness
Equitsumei [-\]: not so urgent 
Violence [?\]: so white does not elect to defend at all
Violence [?\]: and takes the empty corner
]
;B[ic]
;W[jd]
;B[id]
;W[jf]C[madcow [1d\]: KILL HIM
]
;B[ie]
;W[je]C[Farouche [-\]: it's kim
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;B[hg]C[Equitsumei [-\]: k11 
madcow [1d\]: k12
madcow [1d\]: p17 
]
;W[me]
;B[oc]
;W[gd]C[Bierce [1d\]: w is fighter^^^
]
;B[jh]C[Extend [5k\]: cut?
calgacus [?\]: k12 m onster point
gepay [2k\]: b must have a plan if cut
Violence [?\]: This move is not for the faint of heart
Violence [?\]: It's not so amazing
Violence [?\]: j14 h14 h15 g17 and white can't hane
madcow [1d\]: w lost already
madcow [1d\]: POOR W
]
;W[ig]C[Violence [?\]: ah
Violence [?\]: white elects to cut this yea
LEGAN [8k\]: yep
LEGAN [8k\]: w is pro
Violence [?\]: So now
LEGAN [8k\]: he dont need ur faith madcow
Violence [?\]: j13 j12 h14 j14 k13 h12 h15 g17 white can hane
madcow [1d\]: i see a KO coming
madcow [1d\]: BIG ko
]
;B[ih]
;W[hf]C[Farouche [-\]: why would W start a big ko this early in the game with no threats?
progodan [15k\]: r those black stones considered captured?
LEGAN [8k\]: no yet
mauno [5k\]: no
Extend [5k\]: nope
progodan [15k\]: ok
LEGAN [8k\]: both want to capture
USGO2 [-\]: Myungwan gets up to go for some coffee
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;B[if]C[Extend [5k\]: xD
]
;W[jg]C[progodan [15k\]: i saw that move, i would've done that
utah [10k\]: even if they don't live, they provide oodles of aji
Farouche [-\]: and then he loses the game lol
]
;B[kb]C[USGO2 [-\]: apparently the coffee pot was empty, because he didn't return with any
LEGAN [8k\]: mmm
Extend [5k\]: k18 
mauno [5k\]: m18
gepay [2k\]: it's good not to believe in omens most of the time
USGO2 [-\]: Yue Zhang checks his opponent's time.. and double checks, because they both have the same amount of time on the clock: 1:35
utah [10k\]: what are the overall time controls in this tournament?
Iceborg [6k\]: can b connect n17 and j17 ?
USGO2 [-\]: Time limits are 2 hours basic time, 5 periods of 30 seconds byo yomi.
LEGAN [8k\]: looks more easy for b 
utah [10k\]: thanks
LEGAN [8k\]: o18
USGO2 [-\]: Quiz: where should Kim play?
guerecon [2k\]: m18
progodan [15k\]: w k18
Altair [7k\]: k18
Confuse24 [3k\]: no
chongkukim [3k\]: m12
Confuse24 [3k\]: m18
themyr0n [3k\]: g14
progodan [15k\]: why, for life and defense?
HBX [11k\]: m17
Confuse24 [3k\]: no to kill
Farouche [-\]: K18 would be better than M18
Farouche [-\]: but I don't like either one
Confuse24 [3k\]: but if w m18 b k18
guerecon [2k\]: if b connects the k14 becomes too weak
progodan [15k\]: m17 gives black a chance to live and w wants to capture
USGO2 [-\]: Zhang steps out while Kim is still thinking
Confuse24 [3k\]: w m18 b k18 w m17 b e18
indianayk [5d\]: how about H12?
Confuse24 [3k\]: f18 sry
Confuse24 [3k\]: vucut works
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;W[jb]C[PistolPete [10k?\]: ?? wierd
PistolPete [10k?\]: k17 ..
Farouche [-\]: k17 m18 l16 m17 m16 n16  white fine
indianayk [5d\]: what a surprise to all!
USGO2 [-\]: Kim stands to stretch his legs now, while waiting for his opponent to return
progodan [15k\]: after m18 w connects and b h15
moetero [1d?\]: m18?
PistolPete [10k?\]: k17 m18 l16 m17 l15 ..
PistolPete [10k?\]: ladder
chongkukim [3k\]: yue return
moetero [1d?\]: ladder? not
PistolPete [10k?\]: nah i'am wrong
Bierce [1d\]: l15 doesn´t make any ladder
USGO2 [-\]: Yue is still outside the room
PistolPete [10k?\]: white can lpay l13 
indianayk [5d\]: k17 is a must no matter what. if w connects at k17, game is over
moetero [1d?\]: m14 
Astral [2k\]: i guess Yue is using a computer...
LEGAN [8k\]: k18 ia like red ear move of shusaku
Bierce [1d\]: yes because computers are so strong a go
LEGAN [8k\]: yue must be pist off
LEGAN [8k\]: he thought he got it early
Bierce [1d\]: i´m quite sure that b thaught about k18 while shusakus opponent didn`t think about the red earin move
PistolPete [10k?\]: k17 m18 l16 m17 l15 l13 m14 ?
Violence [?\]: this is very severe...
USGO2 [-\]: Yue returns and starts to think about how to respond
Violence [?\]: White will play m14 himself, Pete
PistolPete [10k?\]: ok yah
DokdoKorea [2k\]: k18 is more like tearing eye move
PistolPete [10k?\]: right
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;B[ib]C[themyr0n [3k\]: this game is awesome so far
]
;W[jc]C[LEGAN [8k\]: f18
indianayk [5d\]: it's bad for b
Violence [?\]: g17 f17 f16 ?
jewel [1k\]: f16?
LEGAN [8k\]: w just play fast and strong
moetero [1d?\]: i like f17 
LEGAN [8k\]: yue must feel pressure
USGO2 [-\]:  http://www.usgo.org has updated pictures of the top 4 boards broadcasting LIVE from the 2008 US Go Congress in beautiful Portland, OR
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;B[fd]C[DokdoKorea [2k\]: portland rules!
Farouche [-\]: woow... 
Doublewing [9k\]: hard for b
DokdoKorea [2k\]: portland is NOT belongs to japan
Farouche [-\]: this move is amazingly useful
Violence [?\]: Haha, nice, Dokdo.
Violence [?\]: ah, no need for the G17 exchange
USGO2 [-\]: Yue is sitting on the edge of his seat
Dontpoke [-\]: f16 is sexy 0.0
USGO2 [-\]: Myungwan is gently rocking back and forth in his
indianayk [5d\]: if g17 was played, f16 response would make b really miserable 
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;W[gg]
;B[hh]
;W[ge]C[indianayk [5d\]: b is seeking an exchange here. outside shape for 5 stones plus
Violence [?\]: black must F17?
USGO2 [-\]: Yue re-straighens several of the stones on the board
Violence [?\]: hmm...
Solid30k [3k\]: you should w  playing in real.. he is so calm and wise
Violence [?\]: maybe peep first?
Solid30k [3k\]: watch
Farouche [-\]: it's gonna be really hard fofr B now to get a good result
jewel [1k\]: tough just to live
USGO2 [-\]: Yue starts to play near f17, but then pulls back
Doublewing [9k\]: b can connct f16 to j16 but white kills anyway, and peep doesnt help
USGO2 [-\]: he appears to be working out variations with his finger under the table
]
;B[fc]C[Confuse24 [3k\]: is that cheating
chongkukim [3k\]: np
]
;W[hb]C[pasky [1k\]: :))
vicius85 [1d\]: tesuji
vicius85 [1d\]: was obvious!
KVschool [9d?\]: game over
Farouche [-\]: B did not get a good shape out of it
GlebD [2d\]: how much time do they have ?
jewel [1k\]: is this the difference between 8p and 8d?
Bierce [1d\]: no this was a mistake by b i think
USGO2 [-\]: Myungwan stands to watch the game on board 1 behind him, and every now and again glances back here
indianayk [5d\]: it all started with k12 overplay. I believe j12 was better
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;B[ja]
;W[ha]C[tsukiakari [6k\]: does b j19 m18 h17 work?
indianayk [5d\]: i don't know why w did not play at m18
Almdudler [3d\]: ownd u noob
Violence [?\]: could this be an early res?
theremin [1k\]: sure
KVschool [9d?\]: h19 nice
KVschool [9d?\]: nice reading
USGO2 [-\]: time - w 1:21  b 1:14
mauno [5k\]: maybe m18
theremin [1k\]: small
USGO2 [-\]: Yue starts to play, then sighs a little
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;B[hc]
;W[gc]
;B[gb]
;W[fb]
;B[lb]
;W[ga]
;B[ia]C[mauno [5k\]: oh, this order..
]
;W[kh]C[theremin [1k\]: game still over :)
]
;B[ki]
;W[lh]C[Bierce [1d\]: still w s group under pressure
Astral [2k\]: seems both have a chance to win
Violence [?\]: it's far from over
]
;B[li]C[Cyphis [4k\]: b can b16 or something
USGO2 [-\]: slaps that stone down hard
Astral [2k\]: b16?? lol
]
;W[md]C[Cingo [2d\]: Eh. B16 is certainly an optiion. I don't think c17 could work out very good and that corner is too big to go uncontested.
]
;B[lc]
;W[ld]C[Astral [2k\]: b16 seems bad to me but i am just kyu
Cingo [2d\]: I'm sure the 8p would punish me for it somehow =)
manestor [7k\]: why did b do all this.
Astral [2k\]: ^^
manestor [7k\]: he gave w some territory and at the same time reduced his
theremin [1k\]: (my pad does not work, what are the keys to quit kgs pls ?)
Zyphe [9k\]: is f14 fight good to reduce white top corner and extend to side and center
Zyphe [9k\]: if black f14
tsukiakari [6k\]: p15 keeps jumping out at me
Zyphe [9k\]: alt + F4
]
;B[be]C[kirigo: lol
Niouth: ^^
tsukiakari [6k\]: heh
USGO2 [-\]: oops, one of these day I get the right move on the board :(
Alenchon [6k\]: to err is human ...
]
;W[bd]C[Zyphe [9k\]: this may be stupid but what is the prize for the u.s. open?
USGO2 [-\]: its not a stupid question...and I don't know the answer
Zyphe [9k\]: np
]
;B[cd]
;W[ce]
;B[cc]
;W[bc]C[tsukiakari [6k\]: http://www.usgo.org/congress/ <- this says top prize is $2000
Farouche [-\]: seems very little to me
tsukiakari [6k\]: that was 2006 though
USGO2 [-\]: that could easily pay for a tricked out name badge :)
theremin [1k\]: but you count in euro Farouche :)
Farouche [-\]: indeed
theremin [1k\]: ;)
]
;B[de]
;W[cf]C[tsukiakari [6k\]: ah
tsukiakari [6k\]: https://www.gocongress08.org/events.php#uso
tsukiakari [6k\]: this says it's to be announced :D
Zyphe [9k\]: ... when is kim going to play the supercomputer MoGo?
Vash3G [-\]: That will bve at 1PM PST
USGO2 [-\]: assuming he finishes this game before then :)
Zyphe [9k\]: ok.. it wasnt posted that it is pst.. i am in cst
indianayk [5d\]: if b can't save the group easily, game is over
USGO2 [-\]: maybe we'll have to skip lunch
]
;B[dc]
;W[df]C[Aldor [1k\]: can b leace?
Aldor [1k\]: leave
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;B[ed]C[mlnmiles [1d\]: not likely:)
USGO2 [-\]: the players usually like to finish their games in one sitting, rather than sealing a move to break for lunch
mlnmiles [1d\]: he can make eyes though
Zyphe [9k\]: w d18 feels like it kills b to me... 
mlnmiles [1d\]: f14 now seems ok
Farouche [-\]: d18 e14 e13 f14 g14 f15 
Zyphe [9k\]: ic
]
;W[ef]
;B[bb]C[mlnmiles [1d\]: Farouche, some atari firsy
]
;W[bf]C[mlnmiles [1d\]: :)
]
;B[ac]
;W[ae]
;B[eb]
;W[dm]C[rapture [6k\]: Does someone know where I can download the game records that have been played?
USGO2 [-\]: usgo.org
mlnmiles [1d\]: probably from kgs:)
Alenchon [6k\]: aga usgo site?
rapture [6k\]: Thanks
NerdKibitz: Was there a misread? instead of e14 shoulda killed
NerdKibitz: e18 instead*
Violence [?\]: http://www.usgo.org/naim/band-matrix/42
SpenceR [?\]: does kim usually play in this?
SpenceR [?\]: he didn't last year
Violence [?\]: I think pros who live outside of the US don't usually play
Violence [?\]: Mr. Kim has recently moved to LA, I believe
mlnmiles [1d\]: seems w's ahead
]
;B[gh]C[MssrBlanc [4k\]: I had thought that kuo yin didn't live here, though.  
Zyphe [9k\]: is it me or has a lot of asian pros been moving to the east and west coast here in the U.S..?
Violence [?\]: Kuo Yin does not, I don't know why he's playing
Violence [?\]: perhaps the ZQY gave him permission?
SpenceR [?\]: yea, i had a question about him too
]
;W[dj]
;B[fg]
;W[fe]C[Farouche [-\]: ZQY?
theremin [1k\]: Kuo Yin was invitated
theremin [1k\]: by this famous woman 9p (don't remenber her name)
houth [7k\]: feng yun ?
theremin [1k\]: remember*
houth [7k\]: or 
theremin [1k\]: yes
houth [7k\]: wei na wei
theremin [1k\]: feng yun
theremin [1k\]: he was her student
houth [7k\]: he ?
houth [7k\]: o
houth [7k\]: him
theremin [1k\]: yes
houth [7k\]: that 9d
SpenceR [?\]: zqy is the chinese go association i believe
Zyphe [9k\]: doesnt feng yun have a go school in new jersey?
houth [7k\]: yes
houth [7k\]: i want to go 
houth [7k\]: its kinda too far
houth [7k\]: though
houth [7k\]: from ny
houth [7k\]: is e 15 good ?
Zyphe [9k\]: e15 looks too small
houth [7k\]: yeah
Zyphe [9k\]: later for endgame maybe
houth [7k\]: may be hane
houth [7k\]: n 12 ?
USGO2 [-\]: Maeda Ryo sensei is walking about the room
GlebD [2d\]: is myungwan kim chinese , korean or japanes?
]
;B[cq]
;W[cp]
;B[dq]C[houth [7k\]: ?
baltimore [2d?\]: K
Zyphe [9k\]: sounds korean
]
;W[eq]C[GlebD [2d\]: thanks
]
;B[er]
;W[fr]C[houth [7k\]: 3-3 is two small
]
;B[bp]C[houth [7k\]: too
Astral [2k\]: who is Maeda Ryo?
Violence [?\]: a 5p
Violence [?\]: good teacher.,
Zyphe [9k\]: 3-3 seems pretty good to me...
]
;W[bo]C[Zyphe [9k\]: cut and f3
Zyphe [9k\]: at*
]
;B[bq]C[USGO2 [-\]: http://www.gocongress08.org/pros.php
theremin [1k\]: oups sorry I was wrong for Kim, mea culpa ...
]
;W[ep]C[Zyphe [9k\]: lol maeda ryo pic
]
;B[ds]C[NerdKibitz: Cho Hye-yeon  didnt make it did she?
USGO2 [-\]: now Takemiya Masaki is checking out the games
Vash3G [-\]: she did not
USGO2 [-\]: yes, she did
Vash3G [-\]: oh, my bad
DokdoKorea [2k\]: takemia masaki is there ?
NerdKibitz: She doesnt wish to play though USGO2 ?
]
;W[mh]C[NerdKibitz: I see all byes in results.
USGO2 [-\]: I don't know her schedule
houth [7k\]: p 11 ? 
Alenchon [6k\]: interesting moment for N12
houth [7k\]: n 11 ?
USGO2 [-\]: I didn't miss a move, did I?
houth [7k\]: maybe you did 
USGO2 [-\]: you guys got me talking about visiting pros
houth [7k\]: lol
USGO2 [-\]: checking the board...
NerdKibitz: Sorry USGO2 ^^;
Alenchon [6k\]: we bad
Nouli [-\]: white is preparing R14 invasion ?
houth [7k\]: hey how stong are you usgo2
Zyphe [9k\]: Cho Hye-yeon is the same age as me... and a 7d pro thats crazy
theremin [1k\]: and you are ?
theremin [1k\]: 50 ?
houth [7k\]: hey there are like 2 yrs old 
houth [7k\]: 5d
Alenchon [6k\]: not crazy, sad
DokdoKorea [2k\]: myung is strong
utah [10k\]: strong 8p? do tell...
USGO2 [-\]: their board looks the same as mine... whew
]
;B[bn]
;W[co]C[NerdKibitz: Again, sorry USGO2. 
Zyphe [9k\]: Cho Hye-yeon and I are both 23 yrs old...
USGO2 [-\]: Yue Zhang's water bottle is right in front of that lower left corner position, so I have to keep moving around to see the board
Zyphe [9k\]: lol
rapture [6k\]: you need a camera in the ceiling
DokdoKorea [2k\]: USGO , just drink that bottle urself and see the board straight
USGO2 [-\]: time: w 67m  b 37m
USGO2 [-\]: speaking of Kuo Yin 3p, he is playing on board 1
]
;B[cj]C[Altair [7k\]: what now c11?
Zyphe [9k\]: man wish i could be in portland oregon to meet some of these pros... lol
NerdKibitz: Probably go all fanboy on them? 
Zyphe [9k\]: no not fanboy at all
]
;W[ck]C[NerdKibitz: Really? I would. Id go buy a new go board and get htem all to sign the back heh.
Zyphe [9k\]: just to say i have met them.. maybe get a game with them or something!
Zyphe [9k\]: oh i would get some pictures
NerdKibitz: ah pictures would be good. Put it as your kgs picture. 
Zyphe [9k\]: yep
]
;B[di]
;W[ci]C[clacker [4k\]: Black's managing to make lots of small living groups in the board where white plans to take territory.
clacker [4k\]: I am guessing white is starting to feel frustrated!
]
;B[ch]
;W[bj]
;B[bi]
;W[cj]C[krakengo [1d\]: no "b has 4 corners" chant ?
pasky [1k\]: is UR totally solid yet?
]
;B[dh]
;W[bh]C[pasky [1k\]: I think there still might be aji
Zyphe [9k\]: is that proverb usually true?
nickwild [3k\]: L3 attractive
]
;B[ao]C[USGO2 [-\]: Violence, I'm sorry. Apparently we no longer have a working news desk to feed us news bios on the players :)
]
;W[ap]
;B[aq]
;W[bs]C[USGO2 [-\]: I think Yue Zhang is from the LA area
Motie [?\]: I thought thestart was very good for W but now he hardly has any points
]
;B[cn]
;W[dn]C[nickwild [3k\]: c1?
]
;B[br]C[Motie [?\]: b2
]
;W[fs]
;B[dr]
;W[jj]
;B[ik]C[M4TTY [4k\]: i cannot find resulsts or statistics on the web o us congress ...can u past it here pls?
nickwild [3k\]: does w c1 start ko?
M4TTY [4k\]: *results , of  :)
yMkA [8k\]: not ko
USGO2 [-\]: Myungwan Kim is scheduled to play an exhibition game against the computer program MoGo this afternoon
]
;W[ji]C[turingtest [3k?\]: nickwild: i think not. wc1 ba1 wa2 bc2 
USGO2 [-\]: For latest Congress tourney info, click on http://usgo.org/congress/2008/  Round-by-Round pairings, running crosstabs and more!
Snaga [1d\]: :O
nickwild [3k\]: yes I see it
ahnoeas [3k\]: c1 would be ignored
M4TTY [4k\]: thanks
]
;B[jk]C[turingtest [3k?\]: if blacks e1 liberty is filled, then wc1 would start a ko..
]
;W[kj]C[Torrent [2d\]: c1 would not be ignored, it starts ko for life if black only has one liberty left.
]
;B[mi]C[Torrent [2d\]: *one outside liberty
Faint31k [1d\]: c1 a1 a2 c2 >>
]
;W[ni]C[houth [7k\]: c2 ?
]
;B[mj]
;W[kk]C[houth [7k\]: you can't go in cs
]
;B[kl]C[houth [7k\]: c2
houth [7k\]: i mean
Faint31k [1d\]: yes he can
Faint31k [1d\]: he has two libs
Faint31k [1d\]: kyus >>
]
;W[ll]C[houth [7k\]: so
Faint31k [1d\]: -_-
houth [7k\]: it makes no difference
rapture [6k\]: ...
Faint31k [1d\]: here ill clone
Faint31k [1d\]: join it
Faint31k [1d\]: houth join it...
houth [7k\]: the group ?
houth [7k\]: hane
houth [7k\]: ?
houth [7k\]: no
houth [7k\]: n9 ?
Rakeliem [1d\]: w looks in good position
houth [7k\]: n8 ?
nickwild [3k\]: w could b7 if b ignores c1
GlebD [2d\]: m7 
houth [7k\]: isn't that risky
lubricated [5k\]: w has no territory... but if l8 dies who knows
USGO2 [-\]: the Ing clock says (in Chinese) that black has 10 mins left
Rocker [4d\]: L7
]
;B[ij]
;W[km]
;B[jl]C[radishimo [6k\]: why does the clock speak chinese if it's the US go congress
radishimo [6k\]: :(
]
;W[lk]C[themyr0n [3k\]: player reads chinese?
lubricated [5k\]: because both players are chinese i'm guessing
angusyoung [3k\]: because the clock came from china?
Akagi316 [7k\]: isn't myungwan kim korean
USGO2 [-\]: Mr Kim is Korean
radishimo [6k\]: it'd better have a visa then
Akagi316 [7k\]: yeah thought so
PowerP [3d\]: j5?
radishimo [6k\]: you let one clock in illegally soon they all start thinking it's ok
Akagi316 [7k\]: is mingjiu in round 4?
lubricated [5k\]: fail radishimo...
USGO2 [-\]: the players are discussing adjourning for lunch
GiantCat [-\]: j11?
Violence [?\]: Mingjiu already won his game
Akagi316 [7k\]: cool thx
Faint31k [1d\]: they're gonna eat w\\ each other Oo
Faint31k [1d\]: one of em proably gonna drug the other >>
USGO2 [-\]: the players are adjourning for lunch
USGO2 [-\]: will return in an hour
Faint31k [1d\]: oh
Faint31k [1d\]: ok
G0g0l [1d\]: the player are eatung themselves
Faint31k [1d\]: i knew that >>
GlebD [2d\]: em in one hour don't myungwan kim gona play against mugo ? 
Faint31k [1d\]: i just fergot what adjourning means for a sec >>
rapture [6k\]: isn't the Mogo game in about 40 minutes?
heegaard [4k\]: mogo vs who?
rapture [6k\]: Kim I thought
GlebD [2d\]: myungwan kim
GlebD [2d\]: so was writen down at the email of the AGA
heegaard [4k\]: 9x9?
USGO2 [-\]: we'll settle the apparent schedule conflict and let you guys know
USGO2 [-\]: since MyungWan Kim is now playing against MogoTitan, we will resume this game at 5pm today  <gmt>2008-08-07 24:00</gmt>
]
;B[nj]C[usgo12 [-\]: This is the continuation of the US Open Board 2 game.
]
;W[oi]
;B[pg]
;W[of]
;B[og]
;W[ng]
;B[oj]
;W[ii]
;B[hi]
;W[jm]
;B[lm]
;W[mm]
;B[ln]
;W[nl]
;B[gk]
;W[im]
;B[hm]
;W[hn]
;B[gm]
;W[jp]
;B[gn]
;W[ho]
;B[gq]
;W[gp]
;B[ej]
;W[qe]C[usgo12 [-\]: Black is now in Byo-Yomi.
]
;B[re]C[usgo12 [-\]: White has 41 minutes remaining.
]
;W[qf]
;B[pf]C[usgo12 [-\]: Black has used 2 Byo-Yomi periods on the last 2 moves, and has 3 periods remaining.
]
;W[pe]
;B[oe]
;W[od]
;B[pd]
;W[ne]
;B[rf]
;W[qg]
;B[rg]
;W[oe]
;B[rh]
;W[nc]
;B[nb]
;W[ob]
;B[pc]
;W[na]
;B[nd]
;W[ek]
;B[fj]
;W[nc]
;B[rl]
;W[mb]
;B[rm]
;W[mp]
;B[lq]
;W[lp]
;B[kq]
;W[hq]C[usgo12 [-\]: White has 36 minutes remaining.
]
;B[gf]
;W[he]
;B[hr]C[usgo12 [-\]: Black now has 2 Byo-Yomi periods remaining.
]
;W[iq]
;B[ir]
;W[kp]
;B[pb]
;W[mq]C[badukluv [2k\]: ouch
usgo12 [-\]: Black is down to 1 Byo-Yomi period.
usgo12 [-\]: White wins by resignation.
badukluv [2k\]: my ouch was well timed ^_*
])
